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 Post subject: MP, Which to get?
 Post Posted: Tuesday, 24. April 2012, 05:55:24 
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I finally got 100k, now which mp to get? Not really sure which one I should get.


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Well, usually people get the phoenix(stats) or golden dragon (+40armor).

However, it boils down to what you need. Do you need faster regen of HP/MP (green dragon). Higher atk dmg (red dragon), slow down enemy (blue or black dragon, can't recall)

It's usual dependent on your stats and item to choose the type of MP pet best suited for you.


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 Post Posted: Tuesday, 24. April 2012, 10:13:24 
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If you are gonna be max agi, my advice is to get red dragon, and using shirt of the assassin in pet. These auras help ur illusions a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: MP, Which to get?
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Actually, DMG aura doesn't help illusions. Illusions benifit only from stat bonuses, not ones added by weapons, pets and such. For example, if illusion deals 30% damage and we have:

1. Hero that deals 100 damage = illusion will deal 30 damage
2. Hero that deals 100 damage + has black destroyer (+225 dmg) = illusions will still deal 30 damage
3. Hero that deals 100 damage + has stealth boots (+50 agi) = illusions that deal 50 damage

Those are in-built mechanics of WC3 engine, and i doubt they can be changed in editor without some serious triggering. Therefore, STAT pet is way to go.

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 Post subject: Re: MP, Which to get?
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Damage aura helps, just try it out, all auras help actually. Even armor aura. But agi from items dont effect.

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 Post subject: Re: MP, Which to get?
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from what i know, in NORMAL warcraft games, illusions benefit from agi from items. I tested for GOH, nothing works for illusions except base stats. I seriously doubt amy % damage aura would work too. Phoenix aura should not work too, because it's just +stats.


Err this is said because i've a 1.25e assasin, and i did try out things, but illusions always dish out my base attribute as the damage dealt. No item attibutes, damage, etc. nothing. no armour too.
This is why i don't like assassin, because if you bother to look carefully, at level 60 your illusions capabilities just cap, and don't get improved. Only your main hero does.

anyone can be free to contradict my point above, just make sure it's tested. because i did. with everything except with pet, because i couldn't stand to farm 100k when i found out what i believe are it's severe deficiencies.


Why don't you, which conveniently have 100k and can just reload, try it and tell us what works for assassin now? just use it and see the damage that comes up from your wrath of shadows maxed.


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Damage aura helps, just try it out, all auras help actually. Even armor aura. But agi from items dont effect.


Are you sure Tak? Have you really tested? even if it appears on the illusions' apparent stats, it might not factually affect in damage calculations. I did a protest on illusion system needing buffs, so i did some research...


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i found the thread, general-discussion-f2/balancing-assasin-illusions-in-goh-t981.html

So if you've time you might wanna read. One thing that's weird here is, illusions don't receive critical bonuses... anyone that plays dota should know that they should, because robbe didn't do anything to the game engine.


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winter gloves effect works with illusions. aura items from pet works also. i didnt check Mp pets bujt i think it should also work :)... + yeah. for max agi red dragon is better

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 Post subject: Re: MP, Which to get?
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adi00000 wrote:
winter gloves effect works with illusions. aura items from pet works also. i didnt check Mp pets bujt i think it should also work :)... + yeah. for max agi red dragon is better


winter gloves doesn't work! i tried and tested! wrath of the shadows plus winter gloves 100% doesnt work. it APPEARS to work, but monsters slowed by illusions are only visually affected.

PLEASE TEST YOUR STUFF OUT?!

and, from above, i suspect you didn't test auras FACTUALLY too. someone which really tested and seen the damage output post here instead? please note that many times illusions receive cosmetic benefits, not REAL benefits.


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 Post subject: Re: MP, Which to get?
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in 1.26 illusion didnt even had for exmaple +10 att from aura. in 1.3 they have. tho armor didnt rise as ive noticed. probably bug or not but winter gloves acualy worked for me i think. cant tell for sure since i spam gas to slow enemies so.. xD

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